Sava Winter:
me too mama, sometimes we get on a subject i know little about
Kaley:
:)
Red Deer:
9 PM ET holy
Red Deer:
and coming up on three years worth Filks
holy woman:
thanks. now please continue
mamaduck:
i know that feeling sva and there is so much i want to learn
Sava Winter:
ok, when is imbolc?
Red Deer:
what IS imbolc to you folk
Kaley:
oops... sorry
PAniteowl:
Feb 2nd Sava
xTwoHawksx:
To me, Imbolc symbolizes the time of conception of God deep within the womb of the sleeping Earth.
Sava Winter:
ahh, ok
Red Deer:
(please, no comments about poet didna knowit,,, they don't really rhyme)
melilot:
hope renewed the end of the frozen time coming to an end
Red Deer:
conception, eh?
Sava Winter:
i agree with mel
Red Deer:
same for others?
Sava Winter:
it seems like a rebirth and a promise of better things to come
Red Deer:
variable sava - PA's answer is agreed to by many, but not all
melilot:
it's kinda like you've been on a long journey and now you see the Inn in site
Filks:
Could it also be a way to symbolize a new personal beginning- whether it is to end something negative, or old, or just to begin a new quest?
holy woman:
learning from listening here<<<<
Sava Winter:
good point filks
xTwoHawksx:
Absolutely Filks!
Red Deer:
The Celts celebrate it as the time of calving
Filks:
(Happy face)
Sava Winter:
so the actual date is variable?
Red Deer:
and many see it as the confirmation that the new God will wax strong
PAniteowl:
{g} Lambing ...
melilot:
or when the ewe's start lactating red
Filks:
Calving, then, would indicate a physical bringing into being of something.
melilot:
PA outta my head
Red Deer:
don't they usually start lactating when the babies come {g}?
PAniteowl:
LOL
Windsinger:
manifestation
Sava Winter:
end of the rule of the god and beginning of the brighter reign of the goddess?
Windsinger:
that which is percieved, conceived, and intended is given form
melilot:
don't know red i've never lactated
Filks:
I think you are right, Sava.
Red Deer:
aye filks... a beginning of something already begun (as the babes grew first in they mommies uteri)
Sava Winter:
thanks filks
Filks:
Begun perhaps as an intention, and now as reality.
Arcadia:
Imbolg, means "in the belly" so to me, it is a time of renewal of mother earth, I like to picture grasses and seeds fighting to renew under this layer of snow, gives a hope of things to come
PAniteowl:
no Sava ... the cycles are different ... the Goddess is in the maiden stage, the Sun God is waxing tho not yet at full growth ... this is the youthful time
mamaduck:
or the recovery of the goddess after giving birth
Windsinger:
which is, of course, the initiation of the feminine curve in the sphere
melilot:
more of the beginnings of the puberty pa
PAniteowl:
Hmmm .. can I get back to Sava's comment?? .. The God and Goddess are not adversarial ... the phases of each are turning in conjunction
Red Deer:
aye meli... the strength which must be demonstrated before initiation
Filks:
We have some wonderful minds in here- I'm proud to be with your company!
Arcadia:
aye, a young lady discovering her menses fo the first time
Sava Winter:
so it means samething different to everyone and that is what i like best about wicca
Sava Winter:
it all depends on what book you read owl
melilot:
i've never viewed any time as Goddess or God they all have aspects of both
Red Deer:
definitely PA... they aren't constrained by the sex roles our society (at least attempts) imposes
PAniteowl:
What book are you referring to Sava?
Sava Winter:
i always thought that samhain began the reign of the god
Red Deer:
agree PA... each goes through their seasonal developmental cycles together.
Filks:
Perhaps each has aspects of life that they are respectively better at.
PAniteowl:
Yes RD
Red Deer:
for when is EITHER absent?
Sava Winter:
one a friend sent me part of, i don't know the title
melilot:
i've always viewed samhain as the time of conception and death of the God
Red Deer:
oops, I was agreeing with meli
Red Deer:
many myths, many cycles folk...
melilot:
don't do that red remember what happens when we start to agree
Filks:
I am getting a bit confused with the holy days.. can we just stick to the one for tonight?
PAniteowl:
The God / Goddess symbiology is what I perceive Sava
Red Deer:
first one must determine whether one sees the Lord as one or two...
Red Deer:
one = wax to midsummer, wane to midwinter
Sava Winter:
sorry owl, i'm still new to wicca
Filks:
Me too.
Kaley:
ditto
mamaduck:
me too
Sava Winter:
although not to being pagan
PAniteowl:
{g} .. s' ok Sava .. it will become clear {g}
Sava Winter:
ok
Red Deer:
two = wax to beltain, die at midsummer,,, second waxes till samhain, dies at midwinter
Sava Winter:
but i am still entitled to my point of view
melilot:
one of the traditions of Imbolg is the bringing of a circle of candles into the circle this represents the returning strength of the God
Red Deer:
(or approzimately, depending upon your perspective)
Red Deer:
the Goddess cycles are variable with these also
PAniteowl:
Hmmm ... RD, not two Gods ... but the aspects change in different cycle imagery
Filks:
RD, is there a usual date for the beginning of Imbolc?
melilot:
calendar date is listed as Feb 2 filk
xTwoHawksx:
A circle of candles... thank you that is very helpful!
Arcadia:
right mel, the emphasis is on light, rather than heat, feven thou it is a fire festival
PAniteowl:
Yep, RD .. I agree with that time frame
Red Deer:
you mean in your practice I assume PA...
Filks:
Thanks, melilot.
PAniteowl:
{g} Yep
mamaduck:
it is a festival of light and fertility
Red Deer:
many see the Oak and Holly Kings as two distinct gods, not two aspects, who seasonally assasinate each other
melilot:
i "assume" we are all talking about in our practices red unless we state otherwise
Red Deer:
aye mama...
Red Deer:
the light grows and the young are fed...
PAniteowl:
Ok .. Imbolc or Candelmas is also known as the festival of light
Cmetarybabe:
MM All
xTwoHawksx:
I take it class ISN'T cancelled..{g}
mamaduck:
mm cmetary
Sava Winter:
hmm, i have to celebrate this one
melilot:
not yet anyway two {g}
Kaley:
MM cmetarybabe
Red Deer:
aye meli, but I - being the semanticist I am - try not to assume in a group conversation where newbies don't know that
Cmetarybabe:
MM mamaduck
melilot:
that's why i stated it don't want no semantic error's occuring do i {g}
Sava Winter:
hey, i'm a newbie of a sort and i knew that
Cmetarybabe:
MM Kaley
PAniteowl:
ahh, thought this was WICCA 101 RD {g} .. I just figured we were talking Wiccan practices {g}
Red Deer:
no, 'cause then we get to slap YOU with the trout of semantic repercussions {g}
melilot:
LOL red
Red Deer:
whoa, PA... you'd assert that all Wiccans maintain there is only ONE God?
Sava Winter:
ok, i'm still a solitaire interested in wicca, so leave out the semantics
Sava Winter:
damn owl, and i thought there were bunches of them
melilot:
can't do that sava it's red's thang
Sava Winter:
ok
xTwoHawksx:
Imbolc. . .
Filks:
I like your method of introducing an idea, RD, and then soliciting our responses.
melilot:
depends on how one views the bunches sava if all lead to the one source all are one {g}
PAniteowl:
Nope .. I'd say most Wiccans maintain Imbolc as the mid point ... after the Sun returns, and before it is full grown
xTwoHawksx:
i agree with PA nite
Red Deer:
my point WInter, is that you don't learn if the semantics are left out... if I say use a red candle and assume you know that I mean carmine rather than beet (and the distinction matters)
Red Deer:
you won't understand what's going on
Sava Winter:
so shades of red are important?
melilot:
yes sava the importance is in their meaning to you
Red Deer:
no Winter, shades of MEANING are important
PAniteowl:
Hmmmm ... and Imbolc???? What about Imbolc???
Filks:
Oh, dear... you had best be very specific here, RD. I totally missed the necessity of red candles.
melilot:
red.........we're agreeing agai stop it
Sava Winter:
ok, i can put up with the semantics
Red Deer:
rofl... red was just an example... had nothing to do with Imbolc
Sava Winter:
hmm, and i was under the impression that you used white candles
Red Deer:
what color candles for Imbolg???
Sava Winter:
whatever you have?
PAniteowl:
Green, Brown, Gold, Orange {g}
Nymue01:
I preferr white
holy woman:
imbolg or imbolc?
melilot:
i personally think a light shade of green myself
Kaley:
mm salem
Sava Winter:
i still like white
Flidais:
same here meli
Nymue01:
gold
Red Deer:
whichever works for you Holy...
xTwoHawksx:
puce
Filks:
Perhaps it is the light that is important, and not the color of the candle.
Sava Winter:
puce?
Red Deer:
that question is like "color or colour?"
mamaduck:
are there traditional colors to use Red
Sava Winter:
hehe, are battery operated candles allowed?
melilot:
the color is only important as to the aspect that it represents to you light green means spring buds to me
zXvermet:
Red, Before they had color for their candles....all candles was white. The "idea" of our Thoughts bring in the color of "creations" to BE.
Red Deer:
yes there are mama... but the answer is dependent upon one's Tradition
melilot:
:::::::::::;smacks sava with trout of batteries
Sava Winter:
just kidding mel
PAniteowl:
Green for the coming Spring, Brown for the richness of the earth, Orange for the Sunset, Gold for Sunrise {g}
melilot:
i know sava {g}
Red Deer:
gotta disagree vermet...
Sava Winter:
white for new beginnings
zXvermet:
It is not for you to disagree
Red Deer:
before they had color, all candles were a light yellow if made of wax because they had no parafin
melilot:
why not black for new beginnings sava?
Sava Winter:
black is for endings
Kaley:
endings are beginnings.
holy woman:
beyond the color of the candles.....
Sava Winter:
true, semantics again
mamaduck:
ok so if i understand than any clor you think is appropriate for you is ok?
PAniteowl:
The cakes of Imbolc are wheat and spice mixes .. for the new grains have not sprouted yet.
Kaley:
I'll be quiet {g}
melilot:
it's ok kaley just make sure you've got on hip boots pretty dirty in my head
Sava Winter:
how can you make cakees of something that has not grown yet?
Red Deer:
mama... I'll agree totally if we cvan change think to believe
PAniteowl:
The drink of Imbolc is milk BR>
Nymue01:
stored harvests
melilot:
well sava look to what you plan on planting and use the stored harvest
PAniteowl:
Right, Nym {g}
Sava Winter:
just thinking back a few hundred years
mamaduck:
that is the whole point of wicca is to believe
mamaduck:
isnt it????
Sava Winter:
yes
Red Deer:
aye mama... believing is much more important than thinking...
PAniteowl:
no, mama, the point of Wicca is to own your own belief {g} ..
Sava Winter:
to believe in the earth and the cycles and that the warmth will come after the cold
melilot:
if i plan on planing zuccenie i'll use frozen zuck to make zuck bread
Red Deer:
you got me PA
Nymue01:
thinking just as important as believing
Cloudburst:
Sprouted wheat berries in the bread/cakes is very nice for Imbolc, IMO
PAniteowl:
hehehehe
zXvermet:
Think before we had candles..or colors...use natural nature.
Red Deer:
{--- dairy breads, like sally lunn
PAniteowl:
Oh, Yes Cloud ... and dried fruits and raisins {g}
Sava Winter:
and apples
Nymue01:
wheat berries are hard to find
Cloudburst:
On the stored harvest end, we like a pie with last year's mulberries - reminds us spring is likely to come again...eventually
Filks:
Clarification, please, RD. Now we are on traditional foods for the holy day?
Nymue01:
beeb looking
mamaduck:
oatmeal cookies, dried oats wheat and raisins
Red Deer:
looks that way Filks
PAniteowl:
also, the weavings made at Samhain are burned in the Imbolc flames {g}
Sava Winter:
ok, we got food, drink, and candles, what's next?
Cloudburst:
{--have a food co-op, so am muy spoiled, Nym
PAniteowl:
Now ya got the idea Mamaduck {g}
melilot:
but wouldn't traditional foods depend on what is traditional for each of us?
Red Deer:
and upon where we live?
mamaduck:
i am working on it PA
Nymue01:
still looking for one Cloud
Kaley:
yeah... Ice cream is my tradition...
PAniteowl:
yep, Meli ... don't forget the sauerkraut!! {g}
Filks:
Perhaps the food are all one that seem seed-like, and pertain to planting?
Cloudburst:
yupper, meli. Including some luckouts like RD might have already edibles coming up...
Sava Winter:
damn and i still got snow
Red Deer:
I mean, if my ancestors were from a mediterranean climate, and I didnot have a supermarket, it would be hard to eat THEIR traditional foods HERE at this time of year
Nymue01:
thanks to El Nino...we never got snow
Sava Winter:
good point red
Red Deer:
we've still got last years collards in the fields!
Filks:
RD, please, what is the purpose of the foods eaten at Imbolc?
Kaley:
come to Ohio... we'll share ours {g}
mamaduck:
where are you red
melilot:
well red if your ancestors were from the mediterranean and supermarkets didn't excist you'd have other worries
Sava Winter:
and someone who was in florida might have different foods than i do here up north
zXvermet:
Correct Red....eat the food in your natural area.
Sava Winter:
so do i have to eat pine cones?
holy woman:
Filks, keep edging us forward.
zXvermet:
yes LOL
Red Deer:
Filks... IMO the purpose of the feast at any Sabbat is to celebrate Nature's bounty...
melilot:
no sava what state are you in
Sava Winter:
CT
Filks:
IMO?
zXvermet:
Yes Nature's bounty in our own area.
melilot:
IN MY OPINION
Red Deer:
and hopefully, we use a preponderance of foods which also SYMBOLIZE what we see happening upon the Turning Wheel at this particular point in the year
melilot:
try an apple tart with ice cream sava
Cloudburst:
Filks, I think the purpose of being careful about what you eat at any festival time is to give you an extra reinforcement of mindfulness about what's going on around you
Sava Winter:
good idea me
Sava Winter:
mel
Red Deer:
so, since calving(lambing) and lactation come now in the celtic countries...
Red Deer:
dairy foods are used a lot
Filks:
Ah.
Sava Winter:
milk, cheese, ice cream?
Red Deer:
and since they had NO fresh fruit/grain stored or dried fruits/grains
melilot:
we tend to forget that the old ones made these items traditional because it is what they had we need to use what is available to us
Red Deer:
together, these two types symbolize the completion of that held over from the last years bounty...
melilot:
cookies and milk work well also sava
Sava Winter:
i agree, we have stores that will provide us with fresh fruti
Filks:
two types? Dairy and....?
Red Deer:
and our subsitence upon that which mother offers us before we are ready for fresh whole foods
Nymue01:
grain
Red Deer:
stored fruits/grains
Cloudburst:
For us, though, last year's frozen crops do the job too - like meli's zukes{g}
Filks:
k
xTwoHawksx:
If i lived in australia, could i use vegemite?
PAniteowl:
Yes Red
melilot:
you could two but why would you
Red Deer:
where ever you live, you may use whatever you believe appropriate hawk
xTwoHawksx:
agreed.
PAniteowl:
{g} ... good question Hawks .. and the Aussies will tell you .. {g}
Sava Winter:
corn would have been big in my area, is that appropriate?
zXvermet:
correct red
melilot:
look to your freeze and do a freezer feast sava
Cloudburst:
Vegemite is the stored fruits of some year's harvest of...something
Red Deer:
for me, the point is to assess what would be NATURALLY available at a given time, and to use that
melilot:
yes sava that's the idea {g}
Red Deer:
this is part of how we maintain our connection with the LAND
Sava Winter:
ok
xTwoHawksx:
The spirits will understand if we need to make substiutions. Ceremony is not engraved in stone.
Red Deer:
yeast mostly
Cloudburst:
oh.
Red Deer:
aye hawk
Sava Winter:
what does yeast come from?
Filks:
Well then, I guess the semi-frozen collards still in my garden would be okay!
melilot:
red corn in the freezer is still a connection with the earth as is apples or potatoes stored
melilot:
ahhhhhhh filks i wouldn't eat them E{g}
Nymue01:
no it's not engraved in ston..it should be what feels RIGHT to you
Red Deer:
yeast... kinda like mushrooms come from mushrooms {g}
Red Deer:
no disagreement at all meli
xTwoHawksx:
Yeast is a fungus
Sava Winter:
oh, sorry i just wondered
xTwoHawksx:
that's what we're here for
Red Deer:
for where you live {g} as the freezer might be your back yard
Filks:
mel- would it make me sick?
Sava Winter:
but isn't wicca designed so that each one does what is right for them?
Red Deer:
here, though, frozen food through winter is UNnatural
melilot:
a good corn chowder would include both milk and corn sava
zXvermet:
Yes..it is best to use what you grew yourself..is that not YOUR best?....not from some store; someone else grew or raised.
Kaley:
so would corn pops.
Kaley:
:)
Red Deer:
if that's an option for you vermet, I agree...
Sava Winter:
funny kaley
melilot:
heck if i know filks but i tend not to eat something that i've left in the field after the last harvest tis fairy's fare
Kaley:
oh... sorry
mamaduck:
not eberyone has the space for a garden zX
Red Deer:
but being unable to grow your own should not keep anyone from feasting
Cloudburst:
RD, that's why I suggest sprouts - you can grow them yourself if you have room for a mayo jar{g}
mamaduck:
nope you just use what you think is appropriate
Sava Winter:
i cannot have a garden, no room
Filks:
nice idea, cloud.
Red Deer:
aye cloud... and they are so full of new potential (like milk)
melilot:
then look to the fresh veggies section of your local store sava
Nymue01:
herbs in a window work well
Cloudburst:
yup, yup, yup!
Filks:
well, we'd better start growing them now!
Sava Winter:
ok, and i hate sprouts
zXvermet:
mama you can get a small box and grow something...for your use.
Red Deer:
what about ritual?
Filks:
Good.
Red Deer:
how do folk ritually celebrate Imbolc?
mamaduck:
oh i have a garden every year but i know a lot of folks who dont
melilot:
i think every room in the house should be alight with candles myself
Cloudburst:
Don't eat what you hate, Sava - obliterates all the good resons for feasting{g}
Sava Winter:
could be dangerous mel
Sava Winter:
thanks cloud
Nymue01:
candles EVERYWHERE
PAniteowl:
well, this year will be a bit different RD ...
Red Deer:
<=== definately believe FIRE should be present
xTwoHawksx:
i've never celebrated the cross quarters, :(
Nymue01:
and a totally clean house
melilot:
thank the Goddess for votives sava {g}
PAniteowl:
Candles, yes ... but I plan an outdoor bonfire {g} .. first time I've had the space {g}
Sava Winter:
i like the candles everywhere idea but i have too many cats
zXvermet:
is this the best we can do for ourselves....raise or grow that which we will use in our rites?
mamaduck:
i lioke candles but i have a couple of playful spirits
xTwoHawksx:
if it works, Vermet
melilot:
i've two cats and two dogs sava they don't seem to bother the candles for some strange reason
Filks:
Ritual involves a declaration, or pledging, of intention and also a renewal of connection with the Lord and Lady?
Sava Winter:
i have a haunted house as well
Red Deer:
none of our 14 cats bother candles a bit
zXvermet:
Two..it works, {g}
mamaduck:
fun isnt it
xTwoHawksx:
Good thing the candles don't bother the cats!
Sava Winter:
i have 10 and they think candles are toys
Red Deer:
if one wants to use candles, though, it is important to first believe that they are safe
Sava Winter:
tis interesting
SALEM W:
Sava, i have spirits in my house!
PAniteowl:
Also, I will have a few "friends" over to give everyone a chance to party during this long spell of winter {g}
Sava Winter:
heheh, who doesn't?
Filks:
Fire would involve purificationof some type, no?
melilot:
try tea candles in a mason jar sava see if that is a tad safer\
SALEM W:
lol
mamaduck:
sava you can make candles in crocks and they dont get knocked over
Sava Winter:
good ideas
Nymue01:
put votives inside tall jars
xTwoHawksx:
winter lasts about 3 days for me.
mamaduck:
the stoneware kind you can find at flea markets
Sava Winter:
how about oil lamps, acceptable?
melilot:
put about an inch of gravel in the bottom of the jar
melilot:
yes sava
Cloudburst:
Live flame, Sava, however you manage it
Sava Winter:
ok, i have bunches of them
melilot:
the cat's dont bother the oil lamps sava?
PAniteowl:
yep Sava ... and now is when I put those electric candles in the window {g}
Red Deer:
what you're after is flame - as imbolic is one of the fire festivals
Sava Winter:
ok, we got the flames all over, then what?
Red Deer:
'tis arguable whether any one is superior, but all are acceptable
Filks:
RD, purification? (Sorry I'm so pushy... come with being a FIRE sign!)
PAniteowl:
Then think about what you want to bring to "flower" this year Sava {g}
melilot:
LOL filks
Cloudburst:
Rededications, initiations, actual beginnings of projects you thought about at Yule
PAniteowl:
What new starts??
PAniteowl:
LOL Cloud .... Semantics??? {g}
mamaduck:
fire could also represent our own light and inspriation
Red Deer:
IMO, every ritual is an act of purification of the mind filks
Cloudburst:
Which semantics, Owlie?
Sava Winter:
sort of like a new resolution?
Red Deer:
but not of the body or the environment, both are already divine
PAniteowl:
I think you and I were saying the same things Cloud {g}
Filks:
Perhaps the light is intended to focus our thoughts on what is to come....? Seeing a way?
Sava Winter:
i like that idea filks
Cloudburst:
Uh, yeah, me too{g} Must have gone to different schools together{g}
PAniteowl:
Yep filks {g}
zXvermet:
Return to the beginnings...light the first fire using steel wool... and use the light from the Sun using a large glass...fun to do...to honor the Sun[God] lighting the wick of the Goddess.... both Honoring each other in this Rite. Keep the balance in Nature.
PAniteowl:
LOL Cloud!!!
Cloudburst:
GOOD, Filks
Red Deer:
or perhaps the light is to remind us that the newborn Lord of Yule is now strong... His light breaks through the mists of Winter
Filks:
(Another happy face)
Red Deer:
aye filks
Cloudburst:
I love that, Vermet, but I usually take sunfire at Yule if conditions are OK
Sava Winter:
so the light fortells an end to winter and the promise of spring?
Red Deer:
vermet... I always thought the Goddes lit the God's wick {g}
melilot:
yes sava {g}
PAniteowl:
Imbolc is the time of anticipation ... when all things may be possible .. and the flames light the way ..
Sava Winter:
the light chases away the darkness of winter
zXvermet:
Red sweety...they both light each others fire. {g}
Red Deer:
comes REALLY close to groundhog day, eh?
mamaduck:
wish it were warm enuf to do this outside. i love being outside at night
PAniteowl:
ahhh mama ... a snowy winter's nite is beautiful!!
xTwoHawksx:
Thank you all for the good class!
xTwoHawksx:
Take care & Blessd Be. . .
Filks:
Is it over?
mamaduck:
only if i am in a warm house looking out pa
melilot:
that is considered a "modern" ritual to some Red
PAniteowl:
MP & BB TwoHawks
mamaduck:
i am a pansy
Sava Winter:
feb. 2 is a monday, can i do it on feb 1?
zXvermet:
Red...I enjoyed,,thanks
Red Deer:
modern meli???
Red Deer:
to which are you referring?
melilot:
groundhog day red {g}
Cloudburst:
For me, ritual actions depend a LOT on current conditions and demands - one year it was real warm and I spent the day pruning the apple tree in shirtsleeves kneedeep in snow
Red Deer:
tradition indicates a 3 day window on either side...
Red Deer:
reality indicates you may do it whenever you wish
Cloudburst:
Sava, the groups I know are all doing it Sat. the 31st for ease of travel
Sava Winter:
ok, thanks, monday's are a little difficult
PAniteowl:
Pagan Time Sava is very "flexible" >>> HEHEHEHE
zXvermet:
the groundhog going back into the womb of the Goddess. {g}
Sava Winter:
tis what i thought
Cloudburst:
No matter what the groundhog sees, Spring Equinox still comes in about 6 weeks. Funny thing....{g}
zXvermet:
right LOL
melilot:
oh no all rituals MUST be done at midnit of the date and YOU MUST have six white candles 2 red 2 blue 2green so it is written
Sava Winter:
yeah, but those of us in new england watch that ground hog
Sava Winter:
oh up yours meli
Flidais:
LOL meli
melilot:
ROFLMAO
PAniteowl:
LOL ... uh ... Witch Book is that Meli???? LOL
Filks:
funny meli
Cloudburst:
In whose carved-in-a-rock trad is THAT, meli?!{g}
Arcadia:
lol Meli, which rule # is that {g}
mamaduck:
lol meli
Cloudburst:
So it is written in chat this evening, IMO
Sava Winter:
i'm a solitaire mel and don't have to follow your rules
melilot:
haven't numbered that one yet arc not sure i likei t
Sava Winter:
delete it me
Sava Winter:
mel
melilot:
heheheheheh oh yea of little faith you may be following my rules and don't even know it
Sava Winter:
nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!1
PAniteowl:
ROFL .. Meli RULES!!!
Cloudburst:
the Queen may make all the rules she desires - we get to decide whether to follow them or not{g}
Arcadia:
I know each and every time Mel {g}
mamaduck:
lol cloud good pint
mamaduck:
point
melilot:
hehehe cloud that's rule number one
PAniteowl:
I liked the pint better Mama {g}
Filks:
Thank you for the class, all, and RD especially. Did we talk enough for you?
mamaduck:
so do i pa
Sava Winter:
is class over?
Red Deer:
quite enough for me filks and all...
Red Deer:
THANK YOU!
Filks:
Seems like it, Sava, and it's almost 10.
mamaduck:
thank you red deer
Arcadia:
logs off RD?
Red Deer:
BTW, should we try to do South & Fire again next week, or move on to West?
