Not every herald was lucky enough to have the job security of continued employment in some lord or king’s household. Up until the middle of the fourteenth century, heralds were often confused with minstrels—they lived the same wandering kind of lifestyle and many of their duties were interchangeable. In England, the first textual mentions of heralds are found in wardrobe accounts where heralds are often grouped together with minstrels, trumpeters, harpers and other performers. After all, heralds were known to sing and laud the praises of courageous knights at tournaments. No love was lost between heralds and minstrels however. The subject of several French poems illuminates the rivalry and jealousy that existed between the two professions. A late thirteenth century poem “Li Contes des Hiraus” by Baudouin de Conde tells about an argument between a minstrel and a herald that eventually leads to blows. Another poem by Henir de Laon, “Dit des Hyraus” consists of Henri complaining about the sorry state of tournaments and slamming heralds by saying that their was no better profession for an idle greedy man where he could talk so much, yet do so little.